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#15 The Pleasure Trap | Doug Lisle, PhD

Updated: Dec 8, 2019


Doug Lisle

Originally recorded 7-25-2014


"This actually is how in fact human nature was born - was born behind the advent of fire. Fire is the singular tool that actually changes the course of human evolution and causes us to be human."


Douglas J. Lisle, Ph.D. is an evolutionary psychologist and founder of Esteem Dynamics, a new method of approaching human psychology and wellbeing. He is also the author of The Pleasure Trap, the co-host of the Beat Your Genes Podcast, the Director of Research at the True North Health Center, and is a psychologist for the McDougall Wellness Program. Dr. Lisle received his undergraduate eduction from the University of California, San Diego, as Summa Cum Laude. He later completed his Ph.D. in Clinical Psychology at the University of Virginia, where he was also awarded Presidents Fellowship and was a DuPont Scholar. Dr. Lisle was also a Lecturer in Psychology at Stanford University and has had experience in the field of Criminal Justice.

In this episode, Dr. Lisle covers many topics such as dealing with family members and friends after going vegan, how to lose weight without losing your mind, if salt is healthy, if humans are meant to be raw fruitarian eaters, and his thoughts on the paleo diet. I really love Dr. Lisle's perspective on these topics. It is so interesting listen to someone who has studied psychology approach these issues in many ways many of us would not. I always learn something new every time I listen to Dr. Lisle speak!

Books by Doug Lisle


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